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Camille’s Hopefully Not Stupid Comment: “THAT’S HOW TO GET 30 LIKES ON NEZ’S COMMENT THREAD????!!!!!!” edition

It’s been a while since I’ve posted a hopefully Not Stupid comment here, so here’s a refresher. Being one of the few who has the ability to comment on Nez’s posts, I try (mostly in vain) to respond somewhere in the same ballpark of his level of wit, intelligence, vocabulary, and overall writing chops. There are worse ways to kill time on a mid-morning coffee break, after all. Most of the time I get 0 or 1 likes on my comments—if I get 3 it’s a good day, and I think my record is about 7.

THE FUCKING HEDGEHOG GOT 30 LIKES.

(Oh yeah—hope things work out for you UK Nezheads to catch the tour sooner rather than later. :-) )

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omorka:

bluemoonalto:

I’m noticing that the changes between script and screen (other than the major changes I described at the beginning of my previous post) are generally additions rather than subtractions.  More dialogue is spoken, more business is done.  What’s on the screen is, quite frankly, much funnier—and not just because the princess is being played by a man. 

Moving on to the opening of the first Act, page 8 through the middle of page 11.

Harold, horsemen and horses emerge from the cottage/inn.   I have no idea what the horses were doing inside the cottage.  (Inn.  Whatever.)    The word “horsemen” has been crossed out and “Richard” written in by hand, but the horses are still…. horses. 

In the script, Harold knocks Peter to the ground as he approaches the carriage with the tray of food.  (On the screen, Peter voluntarily drops to the ground, which is definitely funnier.)  The exchange about  “your/you’re back” is not in the script.  Excellent revision, folks! 

In the script, Harold steps on Peter and “leaps into the carriage.”  No way they could pull that one off with their two-dimensional cardboard carriage. 

Gwen’s lusty, “Hold it just a minute, buster!” is rendered in the script simply as, “Wait!”  Also, the script’s “Maybe so…” becomes the beloved, “Yes, I’m hip.” 

In the script, Gwen says, “Let’s go, Harold!”  Once again, I have to give massive credit to whoever it was who changed it to, “Come, Harold.  Let’s away!”  followed by the echoes, “Richard, let us away!” “Horses, let us away!” and “Yeah, man.  Let’s split!”  None of that is in the script. 

According to the script, “They drive off across Peter’s back, driving him deep into the mud.  After a beat, he raises his head.”  Seriously?  After the earlier instruction for the princess to step on Peter’s head, I start to wonder whether Meyerson had some kind of vendetta on Tork.  As it happens, Harold just steps on Peter’s back one more time. 

The last line of the scene, in the script, is somewhat more crude.  “Keep this up, and I’m gonna find another chick!”  (Compare to the final, “Any more of this and I’m gonna get another princess to worship.”)

The next scene opens inside the cottage, which once again has been changed to an Inn.   I ask you to carefully consider what the stage directions say:  “The boys are cleaning up the mess deposited by Harold’s 17 men and horses.”  Let’s just ponder that again, shall we?  “The mess deposited by Harold’s 17 men and horses.”

Moving on…

In the script, Peter describes the tower as being protected by “impassable forests, a moat, and a terrifying dragon.”  He may have been improvising when he switched it around to “a scary forest, a moat, and an impenetrable dragon,” but I suspect the change-up was done intentionally in order to put the plosive P closer to the end of the sentence.  Remember that this episode was filmed in November 1967, and Peter Percival Patterson’s Pet Pig Porky had just been released a few weeks earlier on the Pisces, Aquarius album.   (Though the episode would not air until January, and for what it’s worth, PPPPPP had been recorded way back in June.)   Needless to say, Peter does not repeat the line in the script, as the joke wasn’t there.  Yet.

The next few lines and the arrival of the Fairy of the Locket are pretty faithful to the script. Except, “When the smoke clears, we see the boys cowering in a corner.”  This is one spot in which the final episode is simpler than the script. 

When the fairy declares that she is having her hair done, the script says, “She starts to disappear.”   (A subsequent stage direction says, “reappearing.”)  No indication of how this was supposed to be accomplished.  I think that the solution, with her starting to tap her own head with her wand, was a good one. 

The dialogue about Gwen (“the one who’s always complaining”) is pretty faithful, except of course for the line about the Texas accent.  Another brilliant addition.

The fairy gives the guys their orders without them repeating anything back to her.  Davy’s inspired bit of confusion (“I’ll sue a soat… I’ll send you a suit… in the mail.”) is missing altogether.   We will likely never find out whether that line was written in a subsequent draft or improvised by Jones!

[rends clothes in despair]

Naturally, no mention of a kitchen knife.  Micky, who is supposed to be a blacksmith, shall simply forge a sword that can cut through iron.

The bit of business where Peter strokes the magic locket is not mentioned in the script.  The Fairy does not say, “And now… farewell.”  Her last line is, “Or I’ll be killed!!  It’s my home!” 

The final stage direction in the scene is, “She dissolves into smoke and is vacummed [sic] into the locket.”  Gee, I wonder where Meyerson got THAT idea from?

Coming up next… When Adolescent Fantasies Get Out of Hand

You know, whatever this might be, I’m fairly sure it’s not a forgery after the fact.  If it were, I don’t think the forger would have been clever enough to have had it predate the decision to have Gwen be Mike in drag.

Having said that, I’m delighted that it explains the bizarre decision on the fairy’s part to have an inkeeper forge a sword.  It makes much more sense if Micky’s character was supposed to have been a blacksmith originally (which itself matches up to Micky’s real-life tinkerer nature).

ya know, i actually bought me a reproduction copy of that Head, er, “Changes” script at the con…not even going to pretend I have time to do a close reading though.

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camille9847:

People of the Monkees Tumblr community! I want to talk.

Especially you ladies. We mostly have this corner of the fandom to ourselves, so I can speak a bit more freely.

Kids, we do not get to have it both ways. You see, as long as I have been in this fandom (and I’ve been in and out for more years than I care to remember), there has been a certain clique of people who have wanted to run the show and who want to steal the spotlight any chance they can to make sure we all know they’re the “superfans”. Some people kowtow to those sad little tin-pot dictators, some rebel against them, but most of us tune them out and make our own fun, because at the end of the day—it’s the fucking Monkees and not really worth going to war over. We sit around in our safe spaces, create awesome art, write books, tell jokes, and poke fun at the lamer folks in the fandom. 99% of the time that’s the smartest thing to do. But every once in a while, an opportunity like the Zilch! podcast comes around. An opportunity where, like Nez punching his fist through the wall, we can stage a coup and expand the definition of what a Monkees fan can be. But if we sit back and do nothing, then the podcast will be swamped with the same old voices and the same old anecdotes. My cohosts and I want better than that from the show, and I think we deserve better than that as a community.

I’m going to be coming to some of you in the next few days to recruit 3-4 panelists for an episode on Monkees fan culture that we’d like to record later this month. I’ll be running the show, and Ken will be running the recording. Not sure any of the other guys will be there but I suspect it’s gonna be, well, Justus. I’ve already gotten one yes (THANK YOU @smittygirl!), but I am really afraid that I’m going to hear a lot of hemming and hawing, a lot of “I’d love to, but…” or “I’m scared of public speaking…” or “Aren’t most male Monkees fans sexist pigs? I’d really rather not…”, or worst of all, “I probably shouldn’t come on because I’m not the “right” kind of fan”.

So, without further ado, here is my definition of definition of a “right” kind of Monkees fan.

1. You Like the Monkees.

2. You are not a (physical or virtual) stalker.

3. You don’t start Fan Wars.

If you meet those criteria, you represent an interesting underrepresented segment of Monkees fandom, and create interesting fandom-related “stuff” (A website, books, art, a really hopping community, etc), then I’ll consider you for this panel episode, or shorter appearances in the future. Full stop. And even if you think of yourself as “just an average fan” and not having anything worthy of saying on the podcast, I want you to consider joining the podcast’s rapidly growing facebook community. This isn’t self- aggrandizement (well, at least mostly it isn’t ;-) ). This is me looking at the photos of the Zilch Facebook group members and seeing a lot of first and second generation fans, a lot of males, and a lot of white complexions. We have a unique opportunity to bring ALL generations, genders, and races of Monkees fandom together and throw one hell of a (safe for work) party. And who knows? Just like four guys thrown together through an arbitrary audition process, despite surface differences we’re all brought together by an undefinable common spirit. Let’s celebrate that instead of questioning it.

I promise that the Monkees Fandom episode, and any in which I am involved, will be a safe space. No gotcha journalism, no trick questions—heck if I interview you you’ll know the topics you’ll be asked about in advance, and there will be NO MANSPLAINING. Ken and Company regularly say to me and on the show that they want the podcast to represent all of the fan community, and thus far their actions back up their words. In fact, as long as I am involved in the podcast (may it be a long time), I am going to hold their feet to the fire on that point. I have left this fandom before, I have no compunctions about doing so again if it doesn’t deserve my time, so I don’t have anything to lose by playing gadfly here. ALSO, I’m the de facto admin of the Zilch Facebook community. I’ve only had to speak softly so far, but I am drafting a code of conduct to post if it ever proves necessary, and I carry a BIG ban stick that I WILL use if necessary. Knowing our average daily download stats from NON-iTunes sources,This podcast is already almost frighteningly big. And knowing what you don’t about the guest list—interviews that are scheduled or already in the can—this show is most likely about to get MUCH larger.  But I can’t do this alone, and more to the point I don’t want to. This is the part where ALL of you come in.

Not quite two years ago, pretty much by accident, I posted Gazpacho, Grief, and Gratitude in a fit of OMGWTFBBQ, and became a “name”. About a year after that, I wrote It was Easy Then to Know what was Fair, went out-and-out viral, and allegedly (though I still don’t quite believe this) short-circuited a fandom meltdown regarding the late Mr. Jones’ alleged financial shenanigans in 2011. And a few weeks ago, when I thought I was phasing out of active Monkees fandom, the Zilch crew pulled me back in. This fandom has given me some of the best friends I will ever have. It saved my sanity as a child, taught me how to write in my 20s, and helped me grieve in my 30s. I owe it to this community to leave the fandom a better place than I found it. But we need your help this time. Whether it’s a reblog of this post, joining us on facebook, or coming on the show itself to promote your book/art/website/whatever, Zilch will only be as good a show (and community) as the people who are involved. Finally, if you’re one of the people whom I’ve tagged below, you are one of the people in tumblr’s Monkees community whom I respect the most. I’d extra-especially appreciate a reblog, and if you have concerns about this project, please message me with them. I’d love the opportunity to explain why a overbooked librarian/PhD student thinks this is worth investing her time, how I overcame some early misgivings of my own, and why I think the Zilch Podcast might be worth your attention as well.

So, are you with me? If nothing else, if you reblog this post I’ll get you a shoutout on the show. ;-)

Reblogging for the evening crew, and to let you know that The Monkees Fandom Panel is Set! I’m thrilled to announce that chaoskirin, michblkhawk, smittygirl and *squee* nakedpersimmon will be appearing as panelists on the Fandom episode of the Zilch Podcast! You’ll be hearing more as we get closer to recording this episode. Also, we may be hitting you up for potential questions and topics! Between now and then, consider subscribing to the podcast, follow our facebook group, and give your feedback on the show!

Oh, and PS—would you like a Zilch! Tumblr page?

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People of the Monkees Tumblr community! I want to talk.

Especially you ladies. We mostly have this corner of the fandom to ourselves, so I can speak a bit more freely.

Kids, we do not get to have it both ways. You see, as long as I have been in this fandom (and I’ve been in and out for more years than I care to remember), there has been a certain clique of people who have wanted to run the show and who want to steal the spotlight any chance they can to make sure we all know they’re the “superfans”. Some people kowtow to those sad little tin-pot dictators, some rebel against them, but most of us tune them out and make our own fun, because at the end of the day—it’s the fucking Monkees and not really worth going to war over. We sit around in our safe spaces, create awesome art, write books, tell jokes, and poke fun at the lamer folks in the fandom. 99% of the time that’s the smartest thing to do. But every once in a while, an opportunity like the Zilch! podcast comes around. An opportunity where, like Nez punching his fist through the wall, we can stage a coup and expand the definition of what a Monkees fan can be. But if we sit back and do nothing, then the podcast will be swamped with the same old voices and the same old anecdotes. My cohosts and I want better than that from the show, and I think we deserve better than that as a community.

I’m going to be coming to some of you in the next few days to recruit 3-4 panelists for an episode on Monkees fan culture that we’d like to record later this month. I’ll be running the show, and Ken will be running the recording. Not sure any of the other guys will be there but I suspect it’s gonna be, well, Justus. I’ve already gotten one yes (THANK YOU @smittygirl!), but I am really afraid that I’m going to hear a lot of hemming and hawing, a lot of “I’d love to, but…” or “I’m scared of public speaking…” or “Aren’t most male Monkees fans sexist pigs? I’d really rather not…”, or worst of all, “I probably shouldn’t come on because I’m not the “right” kind of fan”.

So, without further ado, here is my definition of definition of a “right” kind of Monkees fan.

1. You Like the Monkees.

2. You are not a (physical or virtual) stalker.

3. You don’t start Fan Wars.

If you meet those criteria, you represent an interesting underrepresented segment of Monkees fandom, and create interesting fandom-related “stuff” (A website, books, art, a really hopping community, etc), then I’ll consider you for this panel episode, or shorter appearances in the future. Full stop. And even if you think of yourself as “just an average fan” and not having anything worthy of saying on the podcast, I want you to consider joining the podcast’s rapidly growing facebook community. This isn’t self- aggrandizement (well, at least mostly it isn’t ;-) ). This is me looking at the photos of the Zilch Facebook group members and seeing a lot of first and second generation fans, a lot of males, and a lot of white complexions. We have a unique opportunity to bring ALL generations, genders, and races of Monkees fandom together and throw one hell of a (safe for work) party. And who knows? Just like four guys thrown together through an arbitrary audition process, despite surface differences we’re all brought together by an undefinable common spirit. Let’s celebrate that instead of questioning it.

I promise that the Monkees Fandom episode, and any in which I am involved, will be a safe space. No gotcha journalism, no trick questions—heck if I interview you you’ll know the topics you’ll be asked about in advance, and there will be NO MANSPLAINING. Ken and Company regularly say to me and on the show that they want the podcast to represent all of the fan community, and thus far their actions back up their words. In fact, as long as I am involved in the podcast (may it be a long time), I am going to hold their feet to the fire on that point. I have left this fandom before, I have no compunctions about doing so again if it doesn’t deserve my time, so I don’t have anything to lose by playing gadfly here. ALSO, I’m the de facto admin of the Zilch Facebook community. I’ve only had to speak softly so far, but I am drafting a code of conduct to post if it ever proves necessary, and I carry a BIG ban stick that I WILL use if necessary. Knowing our average daily download stats from NON-iTunes sources,This podcast is already almost frighteningly big. And knowing what you don’t about the guest list—interviews that are scheduled or already in the can—this show is most likely about to get MUCH larger.  But I can’t do this alone, and more to the point I don’t want to. This is the part where ALL of you come in.

Not quite two years ago, pretty much by accident, I posted Gazpacho, Grief, and Gratitude in a fit of OMGWTFBBQ, and became a “name”. About a year after that, I wrote It was Easy Then to Know what was Fair, went out-and-out viral, and allegedly (though I still don’t quite believe this) short-circuited a fandom meltdown regarding the late Mr. Jones’ alleged financial shenanigans in 2011. And a few weeks ago, when I thought I was phasing out of active Monkees fandom, the Zilch crew pulled me back in. This fandom has given me some of the best friends I will ever have. It saved my sanity as a child, taught me how to write in my 20s, and helped me grieve in my 30s. I owe it to this community to leave the fandom a better place than I found it. But we need your help this time. Whether it’s a reblog of this post, joining us on facebook, or coming on the show itself to promote your book/art/website/whatever, Zilch will only be as good a show (and community) as the people who are involved. Finally, if you’re one of the people whom I’ve tagged below, you are one of the people in tumblr’s Monkees community whom I respect the most. I’d extra-especially appreciate a reblog, and if you have concerns about this project, please message me with them. I’d love the opportunity to explain why a overbooked librarian/PhD student thinks this is worth investing her time, how I overcame some early misgivings of my own, and why I think the Zilch Podcast might be worth your attention as well.

So, are you with me? If nothing else, if you reblog this post I’ll get you a shoutout on the show. ;-)

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New at Fandom Lenses!

The Classic Doctor Who Viewing Project: Season 1, Part 1 (An Unearthly Child)

I kinda got more verbose than I expected (big shock, I’m sure). Therefore, this post only covers the first Doctor Who Story: An Unearthly Child. Share and enjoy!

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NEW AT FANDOM LENSES: INTRODUCING THE CLASSIC DOCTOR WHO VIEWING PROJECT!

I was enjoying the occasional Doctor Who episode as they re-ran on BBC America, but I was starting to feel the itch to go back to the beginning. I talked to my Who friends again, and they suggested going all the way back to Unearthly Child, but NOT to feel as though I had to watch every single episode of every single story arc…

And I also throw in a promo for the Zilch! Monkees Podcast—I’ve been made an official co-host, to the extent anything can be called “official” in a Monkees Podcast. That’s why the Classic Who Project was delayed a few weeks, in the unlikely event anyone was exactly losing sleep over that. ;-)

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So…who here is a member of the Zilch Podcast facebook group? We’re having a great time over on there, the merrier! Just in the last 24 hours, Zilch Podcasters and listeners have discussed:

What makes a “true” Monkees fan?
What was your introduction to the Monkees?
What was your favorite song by Gerry Goffin (RIP)?
AND folks have shared links to some great footage of both Micky and Nez from appearances on Top of the Pops during the 1970s.

If any of this seems like it might be your cup of tea (or Cof o’ Cuppee ;-) ), Come join up at the Zilch Facebook group today. Anyone can read, and group members can post. Drop on by!

PS—You ARE listening to the Podcast, right? And telling your friends? It’s available at the website and on facebook, and is one of the Top Music Podcasts on the iTunes Charts! Please share and enjoy the podcast, and then leave reviews on iTunes and/or the Facebook group! I’ve been recently admitted to the Secret Order of the Podcast hosts (sort of like the Order of the Chickens, but with less clucking). There’s stuff I can’t tell you (which is frustrating as some of it has me fit to burst), but we have some GREAT topics and surprises planned for the coming episodes. In addition, Tumblr-ites may see (well, hear) even more familiar names appearing on the show. If it’s anything to do with the Monkees Music, TV Show, and a Fan community that has thrived for almost 50 years, we’ll be talking about it on Zilch!

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New avatar (Alice) and Blog Header (The First Doctor) to commemorate Ann B. Davis’s passing and the upcoming Fandom Lenses Classic Who Viewing Project respectively. I’m wrapping up my selected stories from Season one, and will be posting an essay with my thoughts sometime this coming week.

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sunfishdunes:

Ann B. Davis

RIP, Alice. Here’s a story from CNN with more details. Aside from the fact that I was taking a stroll around the neighborhood rather than eating a gyro at the local sandwich place, I heard about Ann the same way I heard about Davy Jones—a notification from CNN on my phone while the deceased was pretty much the furthest thing from my mind. As I said a few minutes ago on Fandom Lenses Facebook, Thanks for being there for me every afternoon after school, too.

sunfishdunes:

Ann B. Davis

RIP, Alice. Here’s a story from CNN with more details. Aside from the fact that I was taking a stroll around the neighborhood rather than eating a gyro at the local sandwich place, I heard about Ann the same way I heard about Davy Jones—a notification from CNN on my phone while the deceased was pretty much the furthest thing from my mind. As I said a few minutes ago on Fandom Lenses Facebook, Thanks for being there for me every afternoon after school, too.

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